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Author Topic: bypassing certain Yahoo MX servers  (Read 60607 times)

gregl

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bypassing certain Yahoo MX servers
« on: September 07, 2011, 07:21:23 PM »

We are noticing higher than normal soft bounces on 3 of the Yahoo MX servers:
b.mx.mail.yahoo.com
i.mx.mail.yahoo.com
l.mx.mail.yahoo.com

Below are the soft bounce counts taken from our acct-t logs today.  The 3 mx servers in question are in the 74.6.0.0/16 range.
 9639 l.mx.mail.yahoo.com (74.6.136.244)
   4080 i.mx.mail.yahoo.com (74.6.140.64)
   2132 b.mx.mail.yahoo.com (74.6.136.65)
    229 f.mx.mail.yahoo.com (98.137.54.237)
    190 g.mx.mail.yahoo.com (98.137.54.238)
    113 m.mx.mail.yahoo.com (66.94.238.147)
     80 j.mx.mail.yahoo.com (66.94.237.64)
     78 h.mx.mail.yahoo.com (66.94.236.34)
     52 k.mx.mail.yahoo.com (98.139.54.60)
     40 o.mx.mail.yahoo.com (66.94.237.139)
     39 n.mx.mail.yahoo.com (98.139.175.224)
     33 d.mx.mail.yahoo.com (209.191.88.254)
     22 e.mx.mail.yahoo.com (67.195.168.230)
     16 c.mx.mail.yahoo.com (98.139.175.225)
      8 a.mx.mail.yahoo.com (67.195.168.31)

Would it be advisable to exclude the 3 MX servers by using the config below?
<domain yahoo.com>
route a.mx.mail.yahoo.com,c.mx.mail.yahoo.com,d.mx.mail.yahoo.com,e.mx.mail.yahoo.com,f.mx.mail.yahoo.com,g.mx.mail.yahoo.com,h.mx.mail.yahoo.com,j.mx.mail.yahoo.com,k.mx.mail.yahoo.com,m.mx.mail.yahoo.com,n.mx.mail.yahoo.com,o.mx.mail.yahoo.com
</domain>

Thank you.
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Port25-Admin1

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Re: bypassing certain Yahoo MX servers
« Reply #1 on: September 08, 2011, 09:51:11 AM »

It's worth a try.  Let us know if it works, as this would be a nice little trick.
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gregl

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Re: bypassing certain Yahoo MX servers
« Reply #2 on: September 08, 2011, 05:20:38 PM »

Anybody else out there experiencing high soft bounces on b.mx.mail.yahoo.com, i.mx.mail.yahoo.com, and l.mx.mail.yahoo.com?

I've added the route directive and I'm now seeing fewer soft bounces since pmta is avoiding the 3 mx servers above.
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Re: bypassing certain Yahoo MX servers
« Reply #3 on: September 29, 2011, 01:11:33 PM »

How did you get those statistics? I couldn't do it using pmtastats.

BTW, are you now seeing less soft bounces from yahoo?
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gregl

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Re: bypassing certain Yahoo MX servers
« Reply #4 on: October 13, 2011, 01:43:58 PM »

Used the following command to get the stats:
grep domain.com acct-t-2011-09-19-00* | grep mx.mail.yahoo.com |cut -f11 -d ',' |sort |uniq -c |sort -rg

When we implemented the route directive to exclude the soft bouncing 74.6.X.X yahoo mx servers, our soft bounces dropped significantly.

Noticed today yahoo updated their mx servers to
yahoo.com.      182   IN   MX   1 mta6.am0.yahoodns.net.
yahoo.com.      182   IN   MX   1 mta7.am0.yahoodns.net.
yahoo.com.      182   IN   MX   1 mta5.am0.yahoodns.net.

Because of the update, had to disable using the route directive.

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Re: bypassing certain Yahoo MX servers
« Reply #5 on: October 17, 2011, 12:00:59 PM »

Greg,
Just to let you know I started this thread based on your command:
http://www.port25.com/forum/index.php?topic=1205.0

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Try the following commands:
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pmta show topdomains --errors
pmta show topqueues --errors
pmta --help

When PowerMTA won't start use:
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pmtad --debug
When all else fails-->support@port25.com