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Blates

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Brazilian domains
« on: January 04, 2013, 07:52:53 AM »

Could anyone provide any insight into their configuration for prominent Brazilian domains such as terra.com.br? I'm signed up for their FBL.

I can't find any on line resources.
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Re: Brazilian domains
« Reply #1 on: January 04, 2013, 09:53:57 AM »

A search on goolge for "terra.com.br postmaster"  turned up this in the top results:
http://mail.terra.com.br/postmaster/postmaster-en.html

I would suggest searching for other domains in a similar manner.
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pmta show topdomains --errors
pmta show topqueues --errors
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Re: Brazilian domains
« Reply #2 on: January 07, 2013, 05:15:57 AM »

Many of those small ISPs in South America are using spamhaus CSS filtering and you get caught many times even if you have several ips mailing at the same time.
So good luck to you. :)
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Re: Brazilian domains
« Reply #3 on: January 07, 2013, 04:43:20 PM »

Many of those small ISPs in South America are using spamhaus CSS filtering and you get caught many times even if you have several ips mailing at the same time.
So good luck to you. :)

If you are getting caught in the Spamhaus CSS list there is a reason for it  ;). If you appear to Spamhaus to be a snowshoe spammer you may want to take a deeper look at your practices.

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Re: Brazilian domains
« Reply #4 on: January 07, 2013, 04:55:45 PM »

Many of those small ISPs in South America are using spamhaus CSS filtering and you get caught many times even if you have several ips mailing at the same time.
So good luck to you. :)

If you are getting caught in the Spamhaus CSS list there is a reason for it  ;). If you appear to Spamhaus to be a snowshoe spammer you may want to take a deeper look at your practices.

Kent M
Sometimes Spamhaus might be wrong. :)
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Re: Brazilian domains
« Reply #5 on: January 07, 2013, 05:04:44 PM »

Sometimes Spamhaus might be wrong. :)

No, a third party service that blindly bans IPs based on a given rule set is always right.  :)
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Re: Brazilian domains
« Reply #6 on: January 08, 2013, 02:20:48 PM »

Could anyone provide any insight into their configuration for prominent Brazilian domains such as terra.com.br? I'm signed up for their FBL.

I can't find any on line resources.
Some months back I was also having issues delivering to any and all .br domains. Then I found out that many of those smaller domains use google api. In order to get delivery without an issue I started playing with smpt out connections, etc. as part of the research, I finally overcame delivery issues, if you need a start on that, use 2 smtp out and 50 msg per connection and go from there. You will need enough volume to really fine tune it. Depending on your scenario you can have one config for all .br or a separate one for each big .br domain. My config might be a little conservative but it gets the job done. It is usual for me to start with either 20 smtp out or 2 smtp out and then I work my way up or down.
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Re: Brazilian domains
« Reply #7 on: January 23, 2013, 06:46:07 AM »

Some months back I was also having issues delivering to any and all .br domains. Then I found out that many of those smaller domains use google api. In order to get delivery without an issue I started playing with smpt out connections, etc. as part of the research, I finally overcame delivery issues, if you need a start on that, use 2 smtp out and 50 msg per connection and go from there. You will need enough volume to really fine tune it. Depending on your scenario you can have one config for all .br or a separate one for each big .br domain. My config might be a little conservative but it gets the job done. It is usual for me to start with either 20 smtp out or 2 smtp out and then I work my way up or down.

Bit late with this, but thanks for your response.

What exactly do you mean by they use Google API? Google Apps Mail?

It's not too hard to find a good configuration with .br domains as the volumes are so low that, as you said, you can start with a really slow/low configuration and work your way up without detrimental affects on your throughput.
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Re: Brazilian domains
« Reply #8 on: January 23, 2013, 08:11:45 AM »

Some months back I was also having issues delivering to any and all .br domains. Then I found out that many of those smaller domains use google api. In order to get delivery without an issue I started playing with smpt out connections, etc. as part of the research, I finally overcame delivery issues, if you need a start on that, use 2 smtp out and 50 msg per connection and go from there. You will need enough volume to really fine tune it. Depending on your scenario you can have one config for all .br or a separate one for each big .br domain. My config might be a little conservative but it gets the job done. It is usual for me to start with either 20 smtp out or 2 smtp out and then I work my way up or down.

Bit late with this, but thanks for your response.

What exactly do you mean by they use Google API? Google Apps Mail?

It's not too hard to find a good configuration with .br domains as the volumes are so low that, as you said, you can start with a really slow/low configuration and work your way up without detrimental affects on your throughput.

That's right - Google Apps Mail - And that doesn't work like gmail does, at least I couldn't figure that out.
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Re: Brazilian domains
« Reply #9 on: January 24, 2013, 01:53:38 AM »

Hey,
We are not lucky like you as we have many users on uol.com.br , bol.com.br , terra.com.br and many others.
We had to work out a few hours on it to find the best delivery settings for .br domains.
The only thing you have to know is that they are old style ISPs and they dont like many connections open at the same time.
So be careful with your max smtp out. :)
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Re: Brazilian domains
« Reply #10 on: March 20, 2013, 01:27:23 PM »

Hi,
Did anyone find a good number for terra.com.br?
I was using 5 max smtp out and 50 msgs, but still getting blocked.
Now I have just 2 connections, as VIN786 started.
Any tips?

Thanks
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Re: Brazilian domains
« Reply #11 on: March 20, 2013, 02:33:29 PM »

Hi,
Did anyone find a good number for terra.com.br?
I was using 5 max smtp out and 50 msgs, but still getting blocked.
Now I have just 2 connections, as VIN786 started.
Any tips?

Thanks

We are also seeing below error from time to time :

450 4.7.1 You've exceeded your sending limit to this domain.
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Re: Brazilian domains
« Reply #12 on: March 20, 2013, 04:05:13 PM »

Yes,
On the postmaster's website, they say the sender IP is unlocked after a few hours and then, it can retry to send more messages. But it keep blocking after a few messages.
Also have a "4.5.0", "too many errors" that is not listed in any help or information on the website.
I'll keep changing the max smtp out and max msg per connection.  =/

Any news, I'll tell you!
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Re: Brazilian domains
« Reply #13 on: March 20, 2013, 04:17:06 PM »

Every time I see this post I keep thinking of this joke:

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A Blonde is watching the news with her husband when the newscaster says 6 Brazilian men die in a skydiving accident.
The blonde starts crying to her husband, sobbing 'That's horrible.'
Confused, he says, 'Yes dear, it is sad, but they were skydiving, and,there is that risk involved.'

After a few minutes, the blonde, still sobbing, says, 'How many is a Brazilian?'
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pmta show topdomains --errors
pmta show topqueues --errors
pmta --help

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pmtad --debug
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Re: Brazilian domains
« Reply #14 on: March 20, 2013, 04:35:14 PM »

Admin - 'How many is a Brazilian?'     :)

Ok try this
max-smtp-out 3
max-msg-per-connection 100
Add some throttle to how many you send in an hour to start with.
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